[BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working

Life in Six Dots hello at lifeinsixdots.com
Sun Jul 16 02:25:30 EDT 2023


Hello Rob,

Thanks for the suggestion. The display works fine on Windows.

I am experiencing the same problem with other makes and models in Linux.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app> On Behalf Of Rob Hudson
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 1:01 AM
To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
<brltty at brltty.app>
Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working

Also, does the device work on windows or another operating system?

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Keithley <mlkeithley at comcast.net>
To: brltty at brltty.app
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2023 16:44:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working

> If you're using a USB cable, you might want to try another one.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Life in Six Dots <hello at lifeinsixdots.com>
> Date: 07/15/2023 05:40
> To: "'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.'" 
> <brltty at brltty.app>
> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
>
> Thanks for the suggest Adrian, all lines are commented out. But I 
> still can't get the braille display to input or use it for navigation. 
> Currently running Ubuntu 22.04 LTS so I can't test the Brailliant BI 
> 40X. It's the only issue I am experiencing I can't see it being a 
> hardware issue, and all the drivers have been installed. No issues 
> with any other peripheral devices. Paul -----Original Message-----
> From: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app> On Behalf Of Adrian van 
> Bloois
> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2023 1:26 PM
> To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
> <brltty at brltty.app>
> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working Hi Paul, I just 
> checked, I have ALL lines in /etc/brltty.conf commented out.
> I have the Alva  and the FS drivers compiled in and this configuration 
> brltty is self determining which driver to load.
> So my suggestion: since your version has probably all drivers compiled 
> in let brltty self determine what to do.
> So comment out all lines in /etc/brltty.conf and I mean ALL!!!
> It's worth a try it works here.
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 01:03:59PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote:
> > Hello Adrian,
> >
> > You could be right as I have done a clean install of Ubuntu 22.04 
> > LTS, Ubuntu 23.04, and Debian 12 and I have the same issue. Ubuntu 
> > 22.04 LTS is running BRLTTY 6.4 while the other two 6.5.
> >
> > I'll double check my drivers first.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app> On Behalf Of Adrian van 
> > Bloois
> > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2023 12:38 PM
> > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
> > <brltty at brltty.app>
> > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 11:58:09AM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote:
> > > I have done a clean install of Debian (latest version) this 
> > > morning and experiencing the same problem as I did with Ubuntu 
> > > 23.04. No input from the braille keyboard. It's quite frustrating.
> > I know, when mine was deliverd  earlier this year it was a DOA.
> > Ik had to wait 3 weeks before an engeneer came a logn to fix it. It 
> > was sent by postal delivery and they are sometimes a bit rude with 
> > packages so some connection was broken. It was fixed very quickly 
> > and
> works fine ever since.
> > So my guess is that you have a hardware problem and you should call 
> > in an engeneer to fix it.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app> On Behalf Of Life in Six 
> > > Dots
> > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 11:42 AM
> > > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.'
> > > <brltty at brltty.app>
> > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
> > >
> > > I have been trying different commands. Some work. Some don't. For 
> > > example, I can press dots 1-2-4-5-8 and chord to change to a 
> > > contracted table but I can't press dots 1-2-4-5-7 and chord to 
> > > change to uncontracted. Dots 2-6 and chord for escape doesn't work.
> > > Still no
> > input from the keyboard.
> > >
> > > I have excuted the following sysctl command:
> > >
> > > sysctl dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti=1
> > >
> > > The output was: dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti = 1
> > >
> > > Are there any other sysctl commands I can try?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app> On Behalf Of Life in Six 
> > > Dots
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 9:02 PM
> > > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.'
> > > <brltty at brltty.app>
> > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
> > >
> > > Hello Dave,
> > >
> > > I cannot perform any commands on the braille keyboard. I've tried 
> > > four different displays (all different models and makes). All with 
> > > the same result. No matter what combination I press, I get no
response.
> > >
> > > What I want is to be able to say change my table using a standard 
> > > keyboard such as switching from NABCC to UEB in terminal as I 
> > > cannot do that at the moment using a perkins keyboard on the 
> > > display it is completely unresponsive. For example I would like to 
> > > perform, as I would on a Focus Blue using the commands dots 12458 
> > > and chord or
> > > 12347 and chord, to switch between uncontracted and contracted 
> > > using a standard keyboard, since I cannot do unable to do this as 
> > > the commands don't currently work on any braille display.
> > >
> > > Basically, no Chord + dot combination work. Not one single command.
> > >
> > > It might not be a bug with BRLTTY per se, but it is a bug in 
> > > Ubuntu 23.04, and 22.04 LTS wasn't great either hence the upgrade.
> > >
> > > I have executed the following command successfully:
> > >
> > > sysctl dev.tty.legacy_tiocsti=1
> > >
> > > But it has made no difference to my issue.
> > >
> > > I might just switch to a different distro at this time.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BRLTTY <brltty-bounces at brltty.app> On Behalf Of Dave Mielke
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 4:43 PM
> > > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.
> > > <brltty at brltty.app>
> > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Focus Keyboard not working
> > >
> > > [quoted lines by Life in Six Dots on 2023/07/13 at 15:34 +0100]
> > >
> > > >I have done a clean install of Ubuntu 23.04. I have the Focus and 
> > > >the Brailliant connected via USB but I still don't have any input 
> > > >from either of the Perkins Keyboards.
> > >
> > > Do chords (i.e. Space + some dot key combination) work?
> > >
> > > >Can someone point me to keyboard shortcuts for a QWERTY keyboard 
> > > >so I can navigate without a braille keyboard? I cannot seem to 
> > > >find this document. It would make working much easier.
> > >
> > > What do you mean by navigate via the braille keyboard?
> > >
> > > >Meanwhile, I'm hoping the bug will be resolved with a future update.
> > >
> > > Whatever the ause of your problem is, it's not a bug.
> > >
> > > I, too, am suspecting that it's the TIOCSTI issue. Did you maybe 
> > > issue the sysctl command and then reboot to get brltty restarted?
> > > What was the sysctl command that you executed, and then what was 
> > > its
> output?
> > >
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